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D300 flash syncing issue...

Last post 02-06-2008, 8:11 PM by pbux. 21 replies.
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  •  20-05-2008, 11:48 AM 802513 in reply to 802445

    Re: D300 flash syncing issue...

    Almost correct, capacitors are involved, but the main part is a 555 timer. the formula is T = 1.1r *c. So a 3.3m resistor in series with a 1000uf capacitor calculates out at 3300 secs. thats nearly an hour. The rain will have stopped by then, so why bother Big Smile [:D]
  •  20-05-2008, 12:36 PM 802559 in reply to 802513

    Re: D300 flash syncing issue...

    cannoman:
    Almost correct, capacitors are involved, but the main part is a 555 timer. the formula is T = 1.1r *c. So a 3.3m resistor in series with a 1000uf capacitor calculates out at 3300 secs. thats nearly an hour. The rain will have stopped by then, so why bother Big Smile [:D]

    Thanks for including the additional info Stan which I deliberately omitted from my reply in order to keep things simple for everyone. Can't for the life of me think who it is that you are attempting to impress but please be assured, it sure isn't me. Sad [:(]

  •  20-05-2008, 3:38 PM 802641 in reply to 802559

    Re: D300 flash syncing issue...

    Alan Ingham:

    cannoman:
    Almost correct, capacitors are involved, but the main part is a 555 timer. the formula is T = 1.1r *c. So a 3.3m resistor in series with a 1000uf capacitor calculates out at 3300 secs. thats nearly an hour. The rain will have stopped by then, so why bother Big Smile [:D]

    Thanks for including the additional info Stan which I deliberately omitted from my reply in order to keep things simple for everyone. Can't for the life of me think who it is that you are attempting to impress but please be assured, it sure isn't me. Sad [:(]

    It was meant to be a joke, as for the deliberate omision I could have sworn I read it on your post. Now get back to your plate of sauerkraut Big Smile [:D]
  •  20-05-2008, 3:46 PM 802647 in reply to 802641

    Re: D300 flash syncing issue...

    cannoman:
    Alan Ingham:

    cannoman:
    Almost correct, capacitors are involved, but the main part is a 555 timer. the formula is T = 1.1r *c. So a 3.3m resistor in series with a 1000uf capacitor calculates out at 3300 secs. thats nearly an hour. The rain will have stopped by then, so why bother Big Smile [:D]

    Thanks for including the additional info Stan which I deliberately omitted from my reply in order to keep things simple for everyone. Can't for the life of me think who it is that you are attempting to impress but please be assured, it sure isn't me. Sad [:(]

    It was meant to be a joke, as for the deliberate omision I could have sworn I read it on your post. Now get back to your plate of sauerkraut Big Smile [:D]

    Of course it was - silly me for not seeing it. ho ho ho ho, ha ha ha, lol lol lol. Sadly we know you for what you really are. Super Angry [8o|]

  •  31-05-2008, 11:06 AM 810896 in reply to 800750

    Re: D300 flash syncing issue...

    Eileen:

    The manual's not very clear on this point (to me at least).


    There are two tables on the same page. The first is called 'Max. number of continuous firings' and tells you how many flashes (at 6fps) can be made before you need to switch the speedlight off to cool down. Using TTL or manual at 1/1 or 1/2 power it allows up to 15.


    The second is called 'Synchronisation during continuous flash shooting (at 6fps)'. This says you can take up to 4 shots at 1/8 power, 8 at 1/16 and so on before you need to switch the flash off.


    It looks as though you can only synchronise at 6fps continuous shooting with the flash set to manual (or only using low power). The section on repeating flash in the D300 manual will allow up to 2 flashes at 1/4, 2-5 at 1/8, and so on.


    So there doesn't seem to be any option that allows synchronised or repeating flash at settings above 1/8 or 1/4. Which makes the reference to 15 full power flashes in the first table puzzling. Perhaps it makes sense to someone else?



    I pretty much read it the same way, at least I'm not alone...

    So I'll gather that the SB600 can in no way shoot how I would like it too...

    Any recommendations for a flash that can handle this type of shooting???

    Many thanks to all that contributed here... ;)
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  •  01-06-2008, 8:58 AM 811247 in reply to 810896

    Re: D300 flash syncing issue...

    pbux:

    So I'll gather that the SB600 can in no way shoot how I would like it too...

    Any recommendations for a flash that can handle this type of shooting???


    No.

    >> It is just not possible for a flash to fire at significant power at 6 fps from AA batteries for more than a couple of shots. If it could it would blow up

    These are pretty much laws of physics.

    The only ways to do this are
    1. Run the flashgun from external power (like a Quantum) via the high speed charge socket. It still won't keep up with 6 fps and Quantums really can blow flashguns up.

    2. Use a very fast cycling mains powered flash gun - and I don't know of any that could cycle this fast. There are probably specialist ones with h-u-g-e capacitors that can do a limited number of flashes like this. Think £££££.

    One of the maths boys could work out how fat the pipe would have to be to completely recharge a flashgun in less than 1/6s - and how hot everything would get. For me the answer to both is "a lot".

    Seriously, what are you shooting that needs this?

    The other options are to use lower power on the gun (should give you a few shots) or use banks of flashguns. This is what the pros who actually need to do this do. You get 5 Pocket Wizard Multimaxes and 4 flashguns. One receiver per gun each on a different channel and set the transmitter on the camera to rolling mode. Show 1 fires flash 1, shot 2 flash 2 etc. So flash 1 can recycle and cool before it's needed again for shot 5. Even then you'll need external power and not to keep this up for long.

    Or do what the movie boys do and just get a 4 kw continuous light source.
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  •  02-06-2008, 8:11 PM 812391 in reply to 811247

    Re: D300 flash syncing issue...

    I had no initial plans to shoot like this, but when I read the SB600 could do it, in the manual then I just assumed it could, why would Nikon be wrong... lol I totally understand why it isn't possible in hindsight. But I'm still looking for a new flash as the SB600 is a bit weak... As to why I'd want a flash that could do it, why have a camera that can shoot 6fps if you are indoors... lol
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